Subject: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
 RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi)
| Subject: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-01-2003 |
| Author: newshooter3645 |
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I have asked this question on other forums and I wanted to give you guys a chance to chime in on this :) Im looking for a lightweight,but great feeling and handling 20 gauge O/U for the uplands. I have ruled out Browning eventhough I know they are EXCELLENT ( but after a heated debate with their customer service rep. they can kiss my ass).
I have narrowed my search down to the following models: Franchi Veloce and Alcione and Beretta Silver Pigeon and 686 onyx ( not the one with the whacky tru glo site and the FAKE extra wood).
I know Beretta now owns franchi....but I think for the lesser price the franchi looks like a more appealing gun.
ANY opinions ? 
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-01-2003 |
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Both are excellent guns. I shot clays with a guy today who has a really beautiful Beretta. I am partial to Browning but you obviously are not. Of the two guns mentioned either one is an excellent choice. I really like the Veloce the way it looks and shoulders. My next o/u will be a 28 gauge and unless I find some deal that I cannot pass up on another model--it will be the Veloce.
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-02-2003 |
| Author: 12 gauge |
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used to shoot autoloading shotguns and might return to them in the future but for right now ill stick with my pump guns but if you want to know how I think on this I think that you made a very good decision when purchasing the Browning Gold Fusion. I think Browning are the most reliable shotguns in the world. I used to shoot a Charles Daly Semi Auto 12 ga simply because it was a cheaper semi-auto and I know many people that shoot Charles Dalys. They liked them and so do I. I never experienced any problems with ejection or chambering. It took all types of 2 3/4 to 3" shells and didnt have to be cleaned very often. And when it did need cleaning it was easy to do. Unfortunatley the spring broke while trying to put a plug in the gun and I traded it for a Mossberg pump 12 ga. I wish I had just sent it to the factory and I am thinking about purchasing another Charles Daly Semi Auto. I am going to return to shooting autoloading shotguns before the year is up. One reason I traded for the Mossberg is because I needed a shotgun fast and before the end of the season. Charles Dalys worked for me but they dont work for some people. I know someone that has a Browning Gold Upland Special and he shoots it perfectly. I have never seen him miss with the gun. What Im saying is shoot what works for you. Get the shotgun you want and not the one everyone else wants you to get. Whether you shoot Charles Dalys, Brownings, Remingtons, Benellis, or Berettas, shoot what works for you and who cares what everybody else thinks.
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-29-2003 |
| Author: rob |
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Franchi makes a good product and the guns are beautiful. I have a couple of friends that own franchi's (veloce and alcione) and they are very happy with them. As with most things mechanical sometimes things fail, and for the most part they can be fixed. My one friend who owns a veloce had problems with the fore-end loosening when the gun was fired. He had the problem fixed and has yet to have any more problems. As far as the alcione, another friend has had the gun double on him and I have seen another alcione double on a round of skeet. My father owns a beretta among many others and the beretta has performed flawlessly. To put something in your hat to think about try putting some briley full length reducers in a 12ga to bring it down to 20ga. Briley has them available for most major manufactures and the cost is around 350.00/set new. They accept chokes and don't add too much weight. Light guns are nice but what moves quick stops quick. I own a light 20ga double and it is great for carrying around the field but I shoot much better with my 12ga o/u. So I am selling the 20 and putting tubes down my 12. The alcione can be purchased with matching barrels in 12 and 20. A great feature to have for the price it goes for. I have shot my friends veloce and it shot extremly well. It is light but the weight distribution helped follow through. Take your time and put a lot of guns in your hands. Make sure that they fit you correctly and buy the best quality you can afford. Everytime I have made myself settle for something it has come back to haunt me.
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-30-2003 |
| Author: Jim |
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I am quite partial to the O/U guns and am an avid upland game hunter. I prefer it vs. shooting clays any day of the week, and have tried many a make and model during the last 30 years. Last year I bought a 687 in a 20 gauge in a 28" barrel, and I have to tell you that I just love this gun. For me, it's very evenly balanced and quick to point. I haven't so much as had a single glitch with the gun mechanically, and highly recommend it.
Do yourself a favor and pick up each gun in this class and pretend you are walking through the field. The one that seems to flow most fluidly to your shoulder and allows you to sight easiest is the one you should choose. Forget about any of the crap about brands/$/etc, and go with the one that simply feels the best. When you have a split second to point and shoot in the field, it's not how your gun looks, it's how if points.
When you are talking field 20 gauges, forget about the weight, they are all light enough. The balance and the speed with which you can put it to your shoulder are the most important things.
Depending on your terrain that you typically hunt, you might also want to consider a shorter or longer barrel, but I found that the 28" is the most flexible. Also, regarding inserts, once you go to a 20 gauge, you will want to migrate to a 28 gauge as well. It's just a normal course of events. The 20 gauge frame along with it's weight seem to accept the inserts better when you are talking field hunting.
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-30-2003 |
| Author: Hoot |
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Sorry to hear the Browing service people were uncooperative. I recently bought a Citori White Lightning 20 ga. I love the gun. I would not be satisfied converting my 12 ga. to a 20. The main reason for buying the 20 is light weight and smaller size. Adding tubes to a 12 ga, only makes it heavier and if I want the big gun, I shoot the big shells.
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 06-30-2003 |
| Author: 12 Gauge |
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Need I say - Charles Daly? Get one, get the best there is!
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| Subject: RE: 20 gauge O/U ( beretta vs Franchi) |
Date: 07-09-2003 |
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I live in Southern CA and have taken up dove and quail hunting in the past few years. I have used an old Winchester 12 pump that has gotten some birds but it has had it's problems and it is to become a backup gun. I want to buy an OU for this purpose and also to be a gun to "give" to my son in october when he turns one yr old. Of course he will start with other guns and he can have the OU when he is ready for it, but till then it will be my companion in the field. I am looking to spend 1000 - 1500. I have liked the Ruger Red Label, but I have been going to various stores and handling as many OU's as I can. My preference has been the feel of the Berettas. I believe I can find one to my liking in the price range too. The one thing I would like is to find a gun with a reciever that is engraving free though so I can have some custom letter engraving done. For this reason the Ruger works nicely. Do you know if Beretta has or has had a 20 OU like this? Also, the Bretta white Onyx is said to have a nickel alloy reciever...would that mean that it is a solid alloy which would mean there would not be any rebluing, or plating involved after the engraving process?
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