Subject: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
Beretta Silver Pigeon S
 RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S
| Subject: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-12-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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I'm still looking for the correct gun for my 12 yr son. He's 5'6" and weighs 140 lbs. He's been shooting for around a year...a Rem 870 Pump. Averages around 20 per round, according to whether he and his friends are goofing around. I've been told that I need to buy him a better shotgun if he is going to keep shooting semi-competively. I've found a Beretta Silver Pigeon J686S10-new for 1,399 plus tax (reg 1799, msrp 2048) I'm not a shooter. Should I buy or keep looking? 
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-12-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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This is 26" barrel-12 ga if it makes any difference. My son is stout for his age and hasn't had any trouble using the adult 870 pump-20 ga.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-13-2010 |
| Author: Plazmabat |
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My best friend and shooting/hunting partner for the past two decades is one of the best shotgunners I know. While not a "professional" shooter, he does compete from time to time in shoots and performs very very well. His gun of choice... A REMINGTON 870 Wingmaster.
You don't have to buy your son a new gun to get better. I have 15 shotguns and some of those are high dollar sporting guns and I have never, except on the rarest occasion, out shot my buddy and his pump.
The point is, my buddy is just a very fundamentally sound shooter and I am not. If your son is going to pursue competitions then get him some lessons first of all. An experienced instructor will help him far more than just picking up a new gun.
After that, let the instructor guide you on the proper selection of a new firearm that will suit your son's needs. He will be able to help you select a gun that will be of good setup for your son's shooting endeavors and more importantly, help you find one that FITS him which is the most vital part of the process.
OK, I got that opinion portion out of the way...
Now as far as your specific question about the Beretta S. It is a fantastic gun, as any Beretta O/U you find pretty much will be. Their O/Us are guns that shoot well and will last a very very long time because they are guns of solid quality. If it is used, be sure to have it thoroughly examined by a smith before you purchase it.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-13-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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Thanx for such a quick response. I appreciate being able to come on this forum and ask questions although I cannot give any advice. I have decided against the new Beretta based upon one of his 4H instructors advice against getting a 26" barrel on an O/U. He recommended a 28" or 30" due to balance. I was also told by another person that these Silver Pigeon have a tendency to "kick" more than other shotguns. I will keep looking. I'm not in a hurry.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-13-2010 |
| Author: Plazmabat |
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No problem. This can be a good place to get info from experienced shooters, hunters, and shotgunners, as long as everyone behaves.
As far as the kick on the Silver Pigeon, I'm not sure about that. I have two of them and neither one kicks any more than any other O/U. Inherently, an O/U will usually "kick" a bit more than an auto. Maybe that is what he meant.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-14-2010 |
| Author: ClyHntr |
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Beretta O/U field models are very nicely proportioned to carry a lot, and are robust but fairly light weight. This makes them wonderful to hunt with but can be brutal in terms of accumulated recoil when shooting hundreds of shots on the clay ranges.
You haven't said what clay sport your son engages in, that is important. If he is shooting trap then Plazmabat's advice is very good, for the money it would be hard to beat a 12-ga R870 Wingmaster, even in good used condition. For skeet and/or sporting clays, I'd suggest a target model Beretta 391 or Remington 1100. Either can be found used in good condition to keep the cost down. Personally, I'd avoid any O/U at this stage of his shooting career.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-17-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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He shoots mainly skeet and a quasi sort-of "5 stand"
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-17-2010 |
| Author: ClyHntr |
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Since he's shooting more than once per loading, without a doubt I'd be looking for a gas-operated semi-auto for him. A Remington 1100 or Beretta 391, new or used, will serve him very well for a long, long time.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-17-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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Sorry to show my ignorance but....I've gotten advice (free) to consider an Extrema. How does that compare to a 391? pros and cons?
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-17-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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May have found my own answer. Saw another thread which seemed to indicate that the extrema is more of a field gun which is not what I am currently looking for.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-17-2010 |
| Author: ClyHntr |
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An Extrema is a 3.5" waterfowling field gun, heavy and powerful. It may or may not cycle with target loads, it seems to depend on the particular gun and how perfectly it is maintained. It is not a target gun, although many shoot targets with it.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-18-2010 |
| Author: Plazmabat |
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I second ClyHtr on that.
The Xtrema and the Xtrema 2 are 391 platform autos, just built to handle magnum loads. I can tell you, being an owner of both, that they are the most versatile autos that I have. They WILL reliably cycle light target loads as well as heavy waterfowl loads...so that would not be an issue. However, they are built like tanks and therefore very heavy, rugged guns.
If your son was going to get into primarily hunting, then I could not suggest a better auto. But based on what you are saying he is going to use the gun for, I would get him the AL391 URIKA. The bulk and weight of the Xtrema would be a bit much for regular light target shooting, if that was all you were going to use it for.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-18-2010 |
| Author: StLouie |
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He shot a Winchester Supreme Sporting Clay O/U last night along with Beretta AL2? (approx 1970's issue) and an A391 something. He liked all three. I'm leaning toward a Beretta semi-auto now so I will begin to look at prices, etc on those. He won a competion last weekend and won the right for a private lesson with a gentlemen in Houston so I will let him look at him before I actually make a purchase. Thanks.
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| Subject: RE: Beretta Silver Pigeon S |
Date: 05-19-2010 |
| Author: Plazmabat |
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That sounds like a good idea. The instructor should give you some good advice on how to choose a gun that fits him well.
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